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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #306
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- Ham-Policy Digest Tue, 12 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 306
-
- Today's Topics:
- Emergency TX on police freq.
- Existing regulations limit our advancement.
-
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- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 21:46:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!joelf@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Emergency TX on police freq.
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- John O. Feher (feher@netcom.com) wrote:
- : A question to all:
- : Suppose a ham radio operator is in a
- : life-threatening emergency with a modified radio
- : in his hand. Should he attempt to call/break in
- : on a public safety (ie police) dispatch freq.
-
- : Would this be legal in case of a true e,mergency?
- : Would it work or are such main dispatch frequencies
- : "protected" by some squelch system?
-
- I believe that I read a of a case in So. California where this happened,
- if memory serve, the guy tried repeaters & cell phones and finally made
- the call on public safety freq's. He had his radio (license as well?)
- taken away, the justification was that it was not FCC type accepted for
- those frequencies.
-
- Joel
- KG0IL
-
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- Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kennish@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Existing regulations limit our advancement.
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <071094161410Rnf0.78@amcomp.com>,
- Dan Pickersgill <dan@amcomp.com> wrote:
- >
- >Yes they are legal. A repeater can have anciliary functions. All the
- >things that we are talking about are ANCILIARY to the normal function of
- >the repeater. The PURPOSE of the patch, anouncements and reverse patch are
- >to provide anciliary functions to the users of the repeater. And use of
- >those functions can be restricted by the repeater trustees.
-
- If you are referring to 97.205(e), you forgot one tiny fact. It
- is worded: "Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available
- to users on the INPUT CHANNEL are not considered..." (emphasis mine).
-
- Unless someone keys the repeater to make the announcement, then
- the announcement is a beacon broadcast and thus illegal. Reverse
- patches are controlled (and the message that comes from that,
- whatever the form) is triggered by a phone line, not the input channel....
-
- Forward patches ARE legal, since they are functions available
- on the INPUT channel.
-
-
- -Ken
-
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-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:37:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!wang!dbushong@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <pq9TBp-.edellers@delphi.com>, <Css6zp.A8C@wang.com>, <071194150301Rnf0.78@amcomp.com>ß
- Subject : Re: Emergency TX on police freq.
-
- dan@amcomp.com (Dan Pickersgill) writes:
-
- >What I think (or you, or the ARRL or whoever) is irrelevent. What matters
- >is how the FCC will interpret it.
-
- Not true. If I'm in a life-threatening situation (which is, I think,
- where this started), what *I* think matters more (at least, to me)
- than what a rule book says.
-
- I'd rather lose my ham license than lose my life.
-
- Dave, KZ1O
-
- (but I'd rather keep both, thank you)
-
- --
- Dave Bushong, Wang Imaging
-
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-
- Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:50:27 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kennish@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vh9et$mdb@vortex.eng.sc.rolm.com>, <2vhki4$h1n@agate.berkeley.edu>, <CSLE87-080794072816@145.1.114.19>
- Subject : Re: Existing regulations limit our advancement.
-
- In article <CSLE87-080794072816@145.1.114.19>, Karl Beckman <CSLE87> wrote:
- >
- >Cross-band repeaters aren't illegal per se, but they sure don't utilize any
- >form of spectral efficiency which USED to be considered good amateur
- >operating practice. However, the USERS who don't listen to the outputs of
- >BOTH (or ALL) the linked stations running in repeater mode are absolutely
- >responsible for the interference they cause to others already using the
- >various frequencies involved.
- >
-
- Agreed. But, I would guess that 90+% of the dual-band rigs running as
- x-band repeaters are doing so illegally:
-
- 1) There is no control link. If you put the mobile in your
- car in xband repeat and take your HT down the canyon to go
- fishing, there is not control link for you to turn on and off
- your mobile in the car. This is illegal. Some rigs now do
- have a method of using a DTMF sequence to address this problem.
-
- 2) Unless you have an ID'er, you are most likely going to bust
- the rules for repeater ID on the path from the xband repeater to
- your HT. Remember, you have to ID on both directions.
-
- There are other problems, but these two come to mind.
-
- -Ken
-
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